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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 14:56:31 GMT
Maybe put that motto on the anniversary jersey?
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Post by Ben Knapp on Nov 26, 2014 15:14:22 GMT
Maybe put that motto on the anniversary jersey? I am thinking of a run of bespoke base layers...
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Post by Alex Ioannides on Nov 26, 2014 16:03:20 GMT
Or maybe on the back of club gloves to serve as a constant reminder?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 16:31:51 GMT
Maybe put that motto on the anniversary jersey? I am thinking of a run of bespoke base layers... Better, a run of Kustom Kaps, in Paragon blue - with those words printed around the bolt.
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Post by David Joss Buckley on Nov 26, 2014 18:51:38 GMT
"As always the biggest issue is people. tossers on bikes, tossers in cars, tossers with dogs, tossers with kids. Trouble is the world is producing more and more tossers." And then there's that tosser Fenton getting them tosser deer stampeding… www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8cPkTh7Y3k
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Post by elwyn powell on Dec 10, 2014 12:26:24 GMT
Quite a few of the Cycling clubs/groups in South West London have been working together to prepare for this meeting with the aim of best representing the interest of cycling. Please see note/links below. If any of you are considering going, suggest certainly worth a read... Elwyn With just a week to go to the important open meeting with Zac Goldsmith MP about the rising tensions between cyclists and other Richmond park users, here is the Briefing Document and Press Release for your perusal. The Briefing Paper was put together following the outcomes from two meetings, with the aim to preempt possible lines of accusation or presumption which we might encounter during what we believe to be a potentially hostile meeting - who knows? The Press Release is just that and is included for your information. We hope to get a column inch in the R&TT at least. Briefing Document - docs.google.com/document/d/1nSJcbvUxC_yxjxBUry1WtvVB_KuCfKyTCU9jBVAgSfY/editPress Release - docs.google.com/document/d/1-skcS73naY5WV-oT0vTXkHYrGwNBQWSTtq19HYKvqCA/edit
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Post by david emery on Dec 11, 2014 9:13:34 GMT
I use the park regularly and have seen several terrible accidents this year, including one immediately behind me (ok I heard that one but did see the ambulance shortly after) and the remnants of one that resulted in a fatality. I also drive a car and motorcycle through the park regularly.
In short, use it enough and you see no shortage of careless, stupid and sometimes reckless behaviour, including but not limited too:
1 Cyclists drafting behind cars and cars tailgating cyclists 2 Aggressive London Dynamo chain-gangs charging into roundabouts without slowing down. Sorry to say that it's true. 3 Ill fitting skin suits aplenty. 4 Cars abruptly slowing or stopping in the middle of the road to look at deer 5 Runners and ramblers at dusk/dark without any lights on, in middle of the road 6 Cyclists galore without lights or really crappy one's 7 Cars still speeding above 20mph, although this is much better than it used to be. 8 Cyclists using it as private race track or TT course, regardless of the level of traffic.
However, without doubt the most dangerous thing is the climb of Broomfield hill in a clockwise direction. Cars travelling in that direction often get frustrated with slow cyclists going uphill, overtake and quickly find themselves in middle of the road on the corner with oncoming cyclists descending (often poorly) the other way. It's a recipe for disaster and I'm sure the number one accident hot spot. It captures the common issues all around the park and the root cause ie lack of space and poor riding and driving standards. To be fair, poor descending isn't often deliberate.
I've long been convinced the answer is to make it one way for cars and motorcycles and to continue the crack down on poor cycling and driving. If it's made one way, I'd also put in traffic calming bumps in the middle of the road, to keep car speeds below 20mph.
I'll aim to attend the meeting and provide an update.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 9:04:53 GMT
I was not there yesterday evening, but if you want a flavour of what was discussed see the twitter feed of @campbells_snoop who was live tweeting with hashtag #RPmeeting
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 11:57:52 GMT
Campbell's tweets give a pretty good account. Suffice to say it didn't turn in to an outright brawl. The anti-cyclists there generally did themselves a disservice by getting the microphone, ranting and rambling about what the park was like 20 years ago, no one mentioned horse riders all night, Fenton didn't make a cameo and by the end of it no one really knew what had been decided.
But it was an impressive turn out in these times of political apathy; the sceptic in me does wonder if it really was just a clever piece of electioneering; especially as from the outset it was stated that the point of the meeting was not to make any decisions...
I know the idea of making it one-way had been mooted by a few DPCC -- this was pretty much ruled out completely on the grounds of increasing congestion of both the main roads, and the side roads and footpaths. Crowd didn't seem to think much of it either.
Interestingly, the police in the park can only issue FPN's to motor vehicles, and not to cyclists. This means that to prosecute a cyclist they have to issue a court summons. This sets the bar quite high, and their enforcement of cyclists has been more about issuing verbal or written warnings. Getting 2 written warnings in a year *might* prompt the police to summons a cyclist, but the recurring theme was that budget cuts to policing services meant that enforcement was becoming harder. The crowd seemed in favour of police being able to issue FPNs (£50 and no points) to cyclists, but were told that this is for parliament to legislate on, so not to expect it any time soon.
Otherwise, another popular idea was to make the park exclusively for the use of cyclists at certain times, eg. opening the gates slightly later on the weekend; this was deliberately left quite vague and seemed to rile up the car-driver sitting in front of me who started shaking and muttering. Also, perhaps surprisingly, the idea of banning cut-through traffic went down very well. Apparently between 80-90% of motor vehicles in the park are using it to cut through, and the general sense was that this was too high, and that it's a park and not a thoroughfare.
There was general support for evidence based planning backed up with statistics, rather than nimby anecdotes and the mayors Cycling Tsar (wft?) Andrew Gilligan seemed to suggest he had some money which could be used for this. One stat I found interesting was that the average speed of motorists issued with FPN's was 38mph, and the fastest cyclist clocked as 37mph. Didn't really seem to register with most, but seems pretty clear where the speeding problem lies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 16:54:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 8:55:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 15:32:00 GMT
Shocking headline. Since when were Dynamo considered the top club in London?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 17:20:45 GMT
Yes. Because the Dynarod chaingangs never exceed 19mph...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 7:57:10 GMT
He resigned from the club, apparently. And he wasn't a Dynamo member at the time he was caught; he joined after that.
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