Quick Q re meeting Paul Mill today at lunchtime

[patrick hawkins]

Just thought I'd see if anyone has feedback on turbo beat (poor attendance on Thursday sessions) and his Wednesday training sessions at track.

I think turbo beat is excellent, so it's just about dates and times.

I get the impression his track sessions went down well

Any thoughts?

Sorry for late notice?

[Deleted]

Track sessions weren't hard enough for some of the racers. On other (non coached) nights they split the groups but on racers nights you often could only go as hard as the slowest members for much of the evening.

The intermediate coached were also far easier than intermediate non-coached, again often due to not splitting the groups.

It felt a bit frustrating at times to only get a proper work out in the non-coached intermediate nights. I personally felt that they were of most benefit to newer/slower riders to the detriment of those of us who want to go quicker but then we may be in the minority.

[Deleted]

I might be a bit late, but I felt all the advanced sessions I attended focused mainly on short efforts of 20 seconds to 1 minute and 90% of the time was just spent cruising around getting cold waiting for the next effort. More paceline/chaingang type efforts with a progressive build up of pace would be better IMO and perhaps split up into 2 groups more often to avoid the periods of inactivity.

[Deleted]

Agree that Turbobeat is excellent. Sign me up now for next winter.

Also agree that the group was too large in HHV coached sessions, so too much time was spent cruising round waiting for your next brief turn.

[Deleted]

I agree with everyone's sentiment on the track evenings, as someone who is "semi-serious" about training the key attraction of the session is a good (minimal interruption) workout...the coaching can be a nice to have but not essential at all.

On Turbo Beat, things that prevent me from doing it are 1) the turbos wear out back tyres (I tend to use one set of 4 Season winter tyres and swap them around half way through winter, unlike summer I have plenty of GP4000s to rotate), 2) from personal experience when there are so many riders in the same room going full gas the risk of illness is really really high.

[Joe R Booth]

I did one 5-week block of Turbobeat and thought it was good but after that every time I thought about it I'd realise that I could only manage 3 out of 5 weeks because of other commitments and it started to look like a pricey/less useful option. I can understand that Paul needs some commitment but making it easier to swap between days in a week would help.

To echo others, I was on the intermediate track sessions Paul coached and even as a not particularly fast, non-racer found them much less of a workout and less fun than the sessions coached by Charlie, Steve and (in one Xmas guest start appearance) yourself Pat because so much was done as one big group rather than differentiated.

[carl Statham]

Agree with above. The Turbo beats are amazing workouts and are great for fitness. But if a sign up for two a week and then work/home commitments change then it is very costly.

I now have my own training patterns and use the Cadence watt bikes. I much, much, much prefer Paul's sessions and he is a great bloke. But I just don't have a regular work schedule with my current job.

[andrewdowden]

Re Turbo Beat I really enjoyed the Monday sessions. Speaking to others the issue with Thursday was that it was an hour later which makes a real difference on a work night.